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“I have been wrestling with some new guys and they use the double overhook quite a bit. I was thrown once when I was moving forward, now I am just pummeling my arms out. They will get it when I swim in for the double underhooks.

What do you think I am doing wrong? What would be the solution to someone double overhooking? I just don’t like the idea of me having to get my arms out and get back into a neutral position, so maybe you guys can throw some ideas my way on how to stop the double overhook from occurring and than a possible reversal once they have a double overhook.”

If you are getting double overhooked, you need better posture and head positioning. Where is your forehead? Where are your feet? Where are you grabbing with your hands? Where are your elbows? Is this a timing and/or experience issue? Are they just one step ahead?

” I think its a timing issue. forehead is usually on their neck/chest area, sometimes not. feet are usually kind of staggered and my body is kind some what to an angle. I cup above their armpits with the underhook, than they usually get the double overs when I swim in for the other underhook. I’m not sure where my elbows are. they are probably at an angle some. not horizontal or vertical. Yeh, they are kind of just 1 step a head, because right before I can get a good lock with my hand with the underhooks, they get the double overs.”

Outside of the timing/experience issue:

* When working underhooks, step one foot between their legs.

* When he is “welded” to you and you are in a good ‘base camp’ wherever you step, he will have to follow. Begin to move, with pushing and pulling and snapping motions.

If you are in good posture, position, etc. and he is in bad, begin to set things up. If he is otherwise, return to these things.

Regardless, you can’t maintain an underhook against EVERYONE. When people are swimming in on you, they are leaving their head and neck open for attack. When you are in a battle for underhooks, you are also setting up sags, backstep, hip and headlock tosses.>

Asked on MMA.tv.

“I think its called the high crotch to a double leg, I was shown it once. You do the normal shoot-in, but your right hand goes between the guy’s legs, then you switch your hands to grab behind the guy’s knees and do a double leg. That description is correct (from a general overview) right? Now heres my Question: Whats the purpose of it?

If you can get/shoot in enough to get your hand between the guy’s legs…why dont you just do a single leg or a double leg? It seems like you are doing 1 extra step – high crotch Then a double leg. I initially thought: “Maybe its easier to get the high crotch then a double”

But the hard part is getting in close/deep enough to get your hands around the guy…and you already accomplished that by getting the high crotch, so you should have been able to get a single/double by then…shouldnt you?”

“If you can get/shoot in enough to get your hand between the guy’s legs…why dont you just do a single leg or a double leg?”

More pertinent, is why don’t they finish the Hi-C?

Because, it has become a lost art and/or their defense of it cues the switch to a double leg finish. The Hi-C has taken a backseat, as has the Barrel Roll/Fireman’s, Near Arm-Far Leg, Picks, and many other to the almighty head inside single and the double. That’s just in wrestling, let alone the watered down versions you see in BJJ/MMA circles where the head inside and double is worshiped.

“on a single leg, youre head is on the inside”

Double legs AND single legs can have the head inside OR outside. It doesn’t matter. There are many finishes for head outside singles….which is another name for the Hi-C. The Hi-C is actually a single leg. As alluded to, sometimes you can’t get both legs, possibly because he has a staggered stance as opposed to a square stance…so the leg capture that comes out of a initial motion of a Hi-c at least gets you in on him. Since most guys begin to square up or start to sprawl they are basically defending the single and cuing the double. For that reason many people just shoot for the hi-c and change to a double automatically. Having said that I have seen quite a few Hi-Cs in the last few UFCs (including tonight) and WECs.